Did you ever get into overtraining syndrome? If so, how did you recognize it and how did you deal with it?

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Greg Bennett · Answer

Hey Milan. Yes, I think I was often overtrained. And actually it was often the people around me that would point out that I'm overtrained. Usually my wife who is closest and could see, usually behavioral changes to be honest. But then also I guess I would recognize it when you just day after day the fatigue was there and I was never really recovering and then finally, really when I couldn't get to sleep and I wouldn't start and I wouldn't sleep well. Those kind of things. But for me, probably the behavioral changes happen first before the physical fatigue chairs.

Jan Frodeno · Answer

Jaime Lon, yes. I've been in overtraining syndrome many, many times. It plays out in various ways. Injuries is the first and foremost one because you're too tired to react, you know, sort of like, yeah, little example. Twisting an ankle on a, on a, not really technical Trail could not very often be something. That's just because your proprioception isn't firing, simply because you're too tired. From all the continued, effort sickness is Other one, but then once you get into a real overtraining, it's just a lackluster to do pretty much anything. I find procrastinating is a big factor, you know, I tend to procrastinate a lot but there it's definitely the case that it just becomes excessive and really the inability to focus and see straight. And later on. It can have even worse consequences, which I've also been to and I very much hope you don't go to the Very dark places that absolute exhaustion, and, and physical, and mental fatigue can take you. So, just listen to yourself. And if you're, you know, if you're tired and having to push for an effort, that's one thing, but learn to differentiate between just being completely lifeless, and having this kind of exhausted feeling over days. If not weeks where, you know, you sort of start to sleep less, even though, you know, you need your sleep and Maintaining just a simple checks and balances, how you feeling. Are you recovering? And noting it down for yourself? And I suggest trying to avoid it as much as you can. But as I always like to say, unfortunately, if you're looking for the limit, eventually you will find it and it's time. Yeah, you have to learn to recognize the limit where it is. Good luck.

Petr Vabrousek · Answer

Jaime Lon welcome to the application. I actually never got into any kind of series or training syndrome. I was very lucky in this aspect. I think, the main reason for that is that I pretty much never hit my training goals because I've always had other priorities in my life, except for Triathlon, being it education, family, traveling. I was always trying to leave more lives. Then just the professional athlete. So as I'm usually saying, I was chronically under train through the hole, through my whole career, and that helped me never get into the situation of serious overtraining. I had some athletes. I'm coaching, who has been through the overtraining syndrome and I know it took them usually several months to get back on track. So my main goal is to keep them overtraining syndrome free that means proper training progression. A lot of recovery measures and tracking their vitals like HRV perceived exertion, getting the main thing. With all my athletes is getting their feedback after each session, how it felt how recovered they feel from previous sessions and so on. So, So, the best prevention from overtraining syndrome is to progress properly, and check your recovery status.

Ben Kanute · Answer

So, I think that I got close to overtraining syndrome and was definitely over trained, but not like some people. Where if you're in overtraining syndrome, you like can't do anything at all kind of early on in my pro career. I was working with a coach and would train super well, do big workouts and is pretty high volume, pretty high intensity and was just crushing it. Crushing it at practice. This. But then the racing I was flat and so I think that's what kind of helps me realize that I was in the middle of something and I didn't realize it at the time that I just needed more rest, but actually started working with my coach Jim Vance now and he was like you just we just need to prioritize rest. Make sure that you are, you put in the work and you train hard enough, but that you make sure that, you know, you let that soak in and you're able to you to get out of your own way for the This is so for me. It was kind of a combination of the training in the racing Nye adding up what you're doing and I checked the mental side of it as well and made sure that that was in check just to rule that out. So that I didn't I wasn't just self-sabotaging. So I think that one of the biggest signs is just one, you're doing a lot of work and you're just on a decline and you can just tell that it's stacking up and you're always feeling tired and then N2 if the training and racing aren't matching up, I think that you should ask the question of yourself. Am I resting the right way for the racing? Am I getting in my own way by doing too much before the races? So those are kind of the signs for me and I do think that it can be really challenging to see if you are over training just because more is more and everybody, it's kind of, you know glamorous or It's cool to do a lot to train hard, but you definitely have to make sure that rest is a high priority.

Tim Don · Answer

I'm glad I don't think I've ever been over trained or had overtraining syndrome ever in my whole career, and I've been a prefer being racing trifling since the early 90s, a professional since the late 90s. I've always been very cautious and I've been very diligent and disciplined and listening to my body. I would be one of those guys that people don't always having another day off of. Oh, he's not going hard again, but I've have race very consistently. The only big injuries. I've really had our from crashing my bike. Running into glass doors and breaking my nose and slipping over and breaking my leg. But apart from that. It's all being accident-related as opposed to stress fractures through overtraining, you know, and things like that. So I've seen in other people but it's very hard to say. Oh, I think you're doing a bit too much. You know, there's definitely a downward Trend here with your training and racing or I look at someone's schedule and God, you're flying to America. Six times this season for like eight races. Are you crazy? Just that alone and itself is going to kill you. You but sometimes it's not your place to tell people that, you know, that could lead to an overtraining syndrome. So I have been very fortunate.

Emma Pallant-Browne · Answer

Yes, I definitely have especially when I was training for Ironman and and kind of almost we doubled like my 70.3 training, which was already a lot. I was, to be honest. Already doing Ironman training and it wasn't me that recognized. The idea was people around and kind of just, yeah, just my race results. Like I was having my best training, my best kind of data and everything in training, and just never really stepping up in Susan, navigating the results. And yeah, just tired all the time. To the point of I was eating loads. I wasn't sleeping well and I was in a bit of a hole and it took a bit of time to get out. And and it did take weeks of being easier and less mileage and then increasing intensity. So I found as I build up the strength and did my hard harder then I wasn't craving that to just keep training all day, so that Kind of really helped me get out of that hole a little bit and then overtime my kind of appetite job down a little bit. I wasn't as hungry all the time and started sleeping a lot better. But yeah it took time and it took discipline and I really took trusting those people around me that they knew what they were doing and and trusting what they were saying.

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Did you ever get into overtraining syndrome? If so, how did you recognize it and how did you deal with it?

Greg Bennett

Greg Bennett

Jan Frodeno

Petr Vabrousek

Ben Kanute

Tim Don

Emma Pallant-Browne